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I tried what was suggested...keeping my upper arm and elbow close in to my body and my forearm straight up (hard to describe) and Zoey sits on my finger...she still flies off of hubbies finger and either to his shoulder or to the floor! She gives kisses now on command. Still no talking, but she is muttering, so just a metter of time We knicknamrd her "crash and burn", everytime she flies away from us she bends another tail feather when she lands on the floor. She is such a riot! 
Robyn Bromley
Warren, Ohio
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